How to Identify Your Clock Movement (Hermle, Urgos, Kieninger, Etc.)

How to Identify Your Clock Movement (Hermle, Urgos, Kieninger, Etc.)

Introduction

Identifying your clock movement is the first step in ordering the correct parts, including suspension springs, pendulum rods, keys, bushings, and replacement movements. Most mechanical clocks have stamped numbers or manufacturer marks, but beginners often overlook or misread them. This guide explains how to identify your movement quickly and accurately.

Where to Find Movement Identification Marks

Look on the back plate

Most modern movements (Hermle, Urgos, Kieninger) stamp their numbers on the rear plate, usually centered or near the bottom.

Check the front plate if the dial is removed

Some older or American movements place markings on the front plate, hidden behind the dial.

Look for logos or symbols

Manufacturers often use logos such as “H” for Hermle, “UW” for Urgos, or “K” for Kieninger.

How to Identify Hermle Movements

Hermle uses a three-part numbering system

Example: 451-050 94cm. The first section identifies the movement family; the second identifies the escapement and train layout; the third is pendulum length.

Common Hermle prefixes

Popular families include 340, 350, 451, 1161, and 1050.

Hermle logos and marks

Hermle often uses an “H” or “Hermle” stamped clearly on the back plate.

How to Identify Urgos Movements

Urgos uses “UW” prefixes

Example: UW32/1 or UW03001. The “UW” identifies the manufacturer.

Urgos numbering styles vary by era

Older Urgos movements use slashes; newer ones use long numeric strings.

Common Urgos families

UW32, UW03, UW66, and UW7/ series are the most common.

How to Identify Kieninger Movements

Kieninger uses letter-based prefixes

Examples include “KSU,” “RS,” “MSU,” and “PS.”

Look for the Kieninger logo

A stylized “K” or the full name “Kieninger” is often stamped on the back plate.

Pendulum length is often included

Similar to Hermle, Kieninger includes pendulum length in centimeters.

How to Identify American Movements

Look for manufacturer names

Seth Thomas, Ansonia, Waterbury, Ingraham, and Sessions often stamped their names on the plates.

Look for model numbers or patent dates

These help narrow down the movement family and required parts.

American clocks rarely use standardized numbering

Identification often requires comparing plate shapes, wheel layouts, and suspension styles.

How to Identify Unmarked Movements

Study the plate layout

Train spacing, plate shape, and arbor arrangement often reveal the manufacturer.

Check the escapement type

Deadbeat, recoil, and platform escapements help narrow down the movement family.

Compare suspension and pendulum hardware

Different makers use distinct suspension blocks, springs, and pendulum hooks.

Common Mistakes When Identifying a Movement

Reading the pendulum length as the movement number

Numbers like “94cm” or “66cm” are pendulum lengths, not model numbers.

Confusing case labels with movement numbers

Labels inside the case often refer to the clock model, not the movement.

Assuming all German movements are interchangeable

Hermle, Urgos, and Kieninger use different parts and are not cross-compatible.

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FAQs

Where do I find the movement number?

Most movements have the number stamped on the back plate. Some older clocks place it on the front plate behind the dial.

What if my movement has no markings?

Use plate layout, escapement type, and suspension style to narrow down the manufacturer.

Do Hermle, Urgos, and Kieninger movements interchange?

No. Each manufacturer uses unique parts and numbering systems.

What does the pendulum length number mean?

It indicates the required pendulum length in centimeters, not the movement model.

Why is identifying the movement important?

Correct identification ensures you order the right suspension spring, pendulum rod, key, mainspring, or replacement movement.

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